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X-TOUCH EXTENDER

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 8:17 am
by andrew b
will 3 X-TOUCH EXTENDER devices work in SAC?

Re: X-TOUCH EXTENDER

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 10:06 am
by cgrafx
andrew b wrote:will 3 X-TOUCH EXTENDER devices work in SAC?
they should, but I haven

Re: X-TOUCH EXTENDER

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:42 pm
by TomyN
No, at least not using the default midi mappings.
You'd need one x-touch full, because there are no 'extender only' midi mappings for more than one standalone MCU Extender.
I've tested and (rarely) used 1 full and 2 extender (MidiCtrl_Mackie_MCUPro_24CH-Ex_Ex_Pro), but mostly use either just one extender or the full and one extender (MidiCtrl_Mackie_MCUPro_16CH-Ex_Pro).

Re: X-TOUCH EXTENDER

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 1:14 pm
by cgrafx
TomyN wrote:No, at least not using the default midi mappings.
You'd need one x-touch full, because there are no 'extender only' midi mappings for more than one standalone MCU Extender.
I've tested and (rarely) used 1 full and 2 extender (MidiCtrl_Mackie_MCUPro_24CH-Ex_Ex_Pro), but mostly use either just one extender or the full and one extender (MidiCtrl_Mackie_MCUPro_16CH-Ex_Pro).
You can't do it connecting directly to the SAC host, but you can do it by adding remotes (1 x-touch per remote)

You may also be able to do it via RTP Midi (not sure if you can aggregate channels).

A single x-touch extender works fine using the MCU Pro 16 channel MIDI template, so I'd expect it to work with the 24ch one as well. So if RTP MIDI allows aggregation of the individual x-touch units that might work to connect 3 units to a single SAC host.

Re: X-TOUCH EXTENDER

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 9:38 pm
by TomyN
Well, this might work, but only for static assignment. If you'll change the mixer you want to work with, you'd need to do it in all three instances of SAC. The same will happen if you want to change assignment to an other channel.
@cgrafx why do you use a 16 channel template for a 8 channel device, especial when a dedictated template (MidiCtrl_Mackie_MCUEx_8Ch) is available?

Re: X-TOUCH EXTENDER

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 11:17 pm
by cgrafx
TomyN wrote:Well, this might work, but only for static assignment. If you'll change the mixer you want to work with, you'd need to do it in all three instances of SAC. The same will happen if you want to change assignment to an other channel.
@cgrafx why do you use a 16 channel template for a 8 channel device, especial when a dedictated template (MidiCtrl_Mackie_MCUEx_8Ch) is available?
I don't use a 16channel template. I just wanted to see if the template works which it does. As I said, you may be able to aggregate 2 or 3 x-touch interfaces into a single 16/24 channel unit using RTP Midi, in which case you would need the 16 or 24 channel template to make that work.

As for assignment using remotes for the extra x-touch interfaces, you can assign those in any manner you wish, static, follow hot-channel, locked to a specific mixer etc. Its extremely flexible.

Re: X-TOUCH EXTENDER

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2025 11:51 pm
by TomyN
Just use the three midi devices available in SAC to avoid any external midi patching.

Re: X-TOUCH EXTENDER

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2025 8:37 am
by cgrafx
TomyN wrote:Just use the three midi devices available in SAC to avoid any external midi patching.
on winXP, that doesnt work. xtouch shows up as a usb audio device and I can only load a single surface.

on win10 the xtouch shows up as an xtouch, but i havent tried connecting more than one.

Re: X-TOUCH EXTENDER

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 7:37 pm
by andrew b
cgrafx wrote:on winXP, that doesnt work. xtouch shows up as a usb audio device and I can only load a single surface.

on win10 the xtouch shows up as an xtouch, but i havent tried connecting more than one.
https://youtu.be/gk8HrItqhcc

Re: X-TOUCH EXTENDER

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 6:26 am
by andrew b
[h=1]***8203;iCON V1-X MIDI maybe this is better??? I don't need jog shuttles I need maximum silence[/h]

Re: X-TOUCH EXTENDER

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 10:18 am
by cgrafx
andrew b wrote:[h=1]***8203;iCON V1-X MIDI maybe this is better??? I don't need jog shuttles I need maximum silence[/h]
At the present time I don't believe any of the SAC/SAW MIDI templates support Meters, so as nice as the V1-X looks, the meter bridge is just going to be wasted space.

Re: X-TOUCH EXTENDER

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 10:47 pm
by andrew b
cgrafx wrote:At the present time I don't believe any of the SAC/SAW MIDI templates support Meters, so as nice as the V1-X looks, the meter bridge is just going to be wasted space.

I wish it worked with SAC
https://youtu.be/AS6gMY-Kmnc