UpTilDawn wrote:1- Left/Right click on the fader with the mouse will zero the fader (or faders when part of a group).

jmh wrote:You can do most anything without too many hurtles - the high one is knowing it all - because after decades, I'm still asking these question and picking things up from these threads.

I didn't mention z&k but have to agree. u is a fantastic key to tweak region borders if you are not a user...

Mark R wrote:It's cool that SAWStudio has some real depth to it that takes a fair while to figure out but when you do it all just seems really intuitive.

Also love the ZBK, ZEK workflow (which I think you also mentioned, jmh) to mark and cut out regions at zero crossings. Very slick

jmh wrote:For moving in time, I tend to stop transport with space-bar and either click on the waveform or more often; tab, shift-tab through regions. Control track cues are really handy to move around with you can tab through them or click on them too - also during playback. ctrl-l/r-arrows are handy to snap to marked beginning or end. The locate points can be used too. Home key.

Mark R wrote:...
In fact if you hold your mouse pointer at the exact location of that start point, it will go back to that point. If you move the pointer it will go to a slightly different place. Interesting behaviour...

Mark R wrote:Actually no I'm not zoomed in that much. I am zoomed in arbitrarily enough that the playhead moves across the screen left to right once every 10 seconds or so and then the page updates/refreshes.

Mark R wrote:Well, that was easy. Not border padding but there is a 'Disable Right-Mouse-Btn Engine Toggle' setting in the MultiTrack menu! Not sure if that is set on by default but can't remember setting that. Funny that it doesn't appear to disable right click playback in SAW plugins but only VSTs and the MT window.

Now right clicking in the top bar of VST plugins works as it should.

2 down one to go!

Cheers

Mark R wrote:Hi,

Thank you for your ideas here. I've clicked all around that top border and even on the top 'frame' of the plugin. Now that you mention it, I think you may be onto something with the border padding setting, I did change this at one point to fix a problem where border padding is not rendered correctly. I'll have a look into this.

Cheers

UpTilDawn wrote:Unless I misunderstand your example, I cannot seem to duplicate what you've described.

I can zoom in to any level, click on the timeline before, or after the moving cursor (during the visible "page") and playback picks up/continues from wherever I've clicked.

Is there some preference setting that's different on my system than on yours, maybe? I don't know. I think most of my mouse and multitrack menu settings are default in SAW (on this pc).

UpTilDawn wrote:I just tried a dozen or more 3rd party plugins active in a current project and did not encounter this issue.

I did notice, however, that the SAW border is clearly visible and is thick enough to contain the blue triangle (where certain menu items are located) and the blue rectangle to close the plugin. That is more than sufficient space to identify where to right-click to start/stop playback.

Are you not seeing this border?
Could your Windows border padding settings have something to do with the issue? - taking a wild guess.

I'm on Windows 10, on desktop computers, but I believe the laptops act the same way (both Win7 and Win10).

jmh wrote:I'm pretty sure that is what Mark is talking about. I think he is trying to navigate while that is the case.

UpTilDawn wrote:...unless I've purposely zoomed in enough to make it stop moving.

Mark R wrote:...
Right clicking in the top portion (or any free space) of SAW plugins definitely works, playback starts. However, here at least, it doesn't work with various VST plugins I tried. I'm in SAWStudio64 on Win 8.1 Pro if that makes any difference. Even clicking the very top frame of a VST plugin does not engage playback here.

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jmh wrote:... Saw doesn't bother to refresh when the waveform would be flashing by so fast to be useless and wasting cpu. I think all you can really do is do a quick zoom-in zoom out to recenter the playback cursor - but (other than that one situation) it is always going to be on the multitrack display during playback.
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Mark R wrote:Hi,
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Just as an example to show what I mean with the timeline/cursor playback problem, if I start playback and I'm 'zoomed out full' so I can see the whole waveform, when clicking somewhere else along the timeline the cursor will jump there and play back from there. Good. However if I am zoomed in to the timeline/waveform any amount, and let it scroll through a few pages (probably using the wrong SAW terminology here), then clicking anywhere in the timeline will not take me to that place but will start back somewhere around the original playback position.

It appears like the original 'page' of the waveform where I begin playback is still 'active' underneath even after the timeline has scrolled through several pages; when clicking the timeline, even if it is a minute or two after the original play position (and says so in the timeline) it will jump playback to the original position.

Kind of easier to see it than to describe it in words.

An example of usage would be I am looking for a piece of dialogue to edit, I play through, and when I find the part I want I click there and instead of playing back from there it goes back and plays from the previous play position, or nearabouts, and I lose both the position of the new dialogue and the original playback position.

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Mark R wrote:Hi,

Thanks everyone for your replies.

Right clicking in the top portion (or any free space) of SAW plugins definitely works, playback starts. However, here at least, it doesn't work with various VST plugins I tried. I'm in SAWStudio64 on Win 8.1 Pro if that makes any difference. Even clicking the very top frame of a VST plugin does not engage playback here.

This is not really a problem as I can get used to clicking in the MT window to start playback, even though it's a bit cumbersome, but if this is not the expected behaviour it would be nice to work out why I'm seeing it here.

Just as an example to show what I mean with the timeline/cursor playback problem, if I start playback and I'm 'zoomed out full' so I can see the whole waveform, when clicking somewhere else along the timeline the cursor will jump there and play back from there. Good. However if I am zoomed in to the timeline/waveform any amount, and let it scroll through a few pages (probably using the wrong SAW terminology here), then clicking anywhere in the timeline will not take me to that place but will start back somewhere around the original playback position.

It appears like the original 'page' of the waveform where I begin playback is still 'active' underneath even after the timeline has scrolled through several pages; when clicking the timeline, even if it is a minute or two after the original play position (and says so in the timeline) it will jump playback to the original position.

Kind of easier to see it than to describe it in words.