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[/size][size=100]Reply 3: The only people that will be able to answer that question is Waves. Have you "reached out" to them?[/size][size=100]

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[size=100]No I have not. And I suspect they would tell me that they don't claim that their plugins will work in SAC, if I did.
The 16.7 plugins works fine in Reaper, so if Bob can't figure out why they don't work in SAC, I'll be forced to revert to v15.

Btw I'm reasonably sure Waves doesn't use Juce for gui rendering, because none of my waves plugin's freeze/stall on scene creation i SAC.[/size]

[size=100]Peter,

Response 1: Yes, Juce is a fantastic framework so naturally it's adopted by developers.
Reply 1: I do not really-and-true believe JUCE to be all that wonderful!

[/size][size=100]Response 2: [/size][size=100]It's unfortunate that Juce and SAC to some extend are incompatible.
[/size][size=100]Reply 2: Agreed! However, many, if not most of the developers of whom I have been a loyal customer of for many years, all say the very same thing, "No one else is having an issue, so it must be your software!"
* Then I ask them, well this version works just great. So what has changed? They told me that they recently ported all of their development platform to JUCE!
* For example, THU 1.6 worked for years with SAC. Then out came v1.7...and I started to have issues with v1.7. Why? JUCE!
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[size=100]Response 3: I have a single Waves v16.6 plugin that works fine. But v16.7 plugins do not pass/process audio. So I don't think it's a Juce related issue.
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[quote="mr_es335"][size=100]Peter,

I am NOT sure if anyone else is experiencing the same issues that I had, but since the implementation of JUCE, many, MANY developers, including Waves, have ported all of their projects over to JUCE.

See this: [[url=https://forum.juce.com/t/hosts-dealing-with-waves-shell-updates/67104]Click_Me[/URL]]

This MAY be your issue as well!
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Yes, Juce is a fantastic framework so naturally it's adopted by developers. It's unfortunate that Juce and SAC[/size] [size=100]to some extend are incompatible.
I have a single Waves v16.6 plugin that works fine. But v16.7 plugins do not pass/process audio. So I don't think it's a Juce related issue.

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[size=100]Peter,

I am NOT sure if anyone else is experiencing the same issues that I had, but since the implementation of JUCE, many, MANY developers, including Waves, have ported all of their projects over to JUCE.

See this: [[url=https://forum.juce.com/t/hosts-dealing-with-waves-shell-updates/67104]Click_Me[/URL]]

This MAY be your issue as well!
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Have any of you tried using the latest version (16.7) of Waves plugins in SAC64 V2 (or SAW)?
Earlier versions seems to work fine but the 16.7 plugins will not pass audio on my system.