SAW Hooks

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Re: SAW Hooks

by Ollie » Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:18 am

Got it. Thanks.

Re: SAW Hooks

by Bob L » Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:56 pm

What you will want to do now is keep the live session setup and run one more SAC input from the SS Output Track 1... that will be your playback... exactly as we have all done it since the beginning with a physical console.

The export is for a one to one mixdown arrangement... not for a tracking arrangement... unless you want that much onitor control while tracking vocals or something.

I am also working on a live Tape Style switching playback feature that will do what you want while the Record Meters are present... but it is not ready yet.

Or... if you want to switch between the two completely different setups... just create a scene for each setup and then just switch scenes to get back to your recording setup.

Bob L

Re: SAW Hooks

by Ollie » Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:40 pm

RME Digiface
Ada 80000
Desktop system

I was goofing with this a bit today. I set my inputs in SAC to mono inputs. Made a template and started to go live. Then I opened up SawStudio, got it to hook to SAC by Activating SAC Link and then getting the Sac Link Option you wantImport Mix Data from Sac . Everything is working fine. Data being recorded to SawStudio. Great.

Now I go into SawStudio and choose Export Mix Data to Sac. By necessity that has to change in Sac where the data is coming from so you can hear the tracks. Say I want to get back into my live session ASAP, Bob what do you recommend is the quickest way to do that and return my inputs for live PA?

Thanks.

Re: SAW Hooks

by Bob L » Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:36 pm

The Pre-Release will probably hold till mid or end of July... I am behind schedule... I was hoping to have everything finished by now... mid-June... but probably another month.

Bob L

Re: SAW Hooks

by mOjO Fet » Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:15 pm

How long is the pre-release sale promotion going to last?

I would love to jump on board. Also now after so many people seem to be really exited about SAC. The possibilities seem fascinating!

On the other hand as a Basic user without the integration of SAC I am hesitating....


I think Basic and SAC with the hooks would be a very powerful combination.....

Michael

Re: SAW Hooks

by Bob L » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:28 pm

At the moment the hooks have not been written in to Basic.... they are completely different source codes and will require me to manually insert all the hooks from the Lite/Full source... lots and lots of code and variable additions... lots more debug time... not sure what I will do there...

Basic as an introductory product to Lite and Full may remain without that feature... we'll see.

Bob L

Re: SAW Hooks

by KurtS » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:02 pm

Are the hooks going to be available in SawStudio Basic as well? I see that the SawStudio release notes only reference Lite and Full with the hooks.

-Kurt

Re: SAW Hooks

by mako » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:08 pm

Fantastic - thank you Bob - my, you have been a busy little beaver.

Thanks again

mako

Re: SAW Hooks

by Bob L » Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:30 pm

The update is out... check the announcements forum.

Bob L

Re: SAW Hooks

by mako » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:04 am

:rolleyes: - just wondering

mako :)

Re: SAW Hooks

by Iain Westland » Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:32 pm

i'm all a quiver waiting for these :D

Re: SAW Hooks

by Bob L » Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:03 pm

It is driver dependent whether you can work with 2 or more apps at the same time.

With the hooks... it no longer matters, plus it drops the load drastically because SAW no longer even addresses the driver... all audio handling is direct between SAC and SAW and SAC is the only app that deals with the soundcard.

Bob L

Re: SAW Hooks

by Bud Johnson » Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:38 pm

What Vinny said, but I don't know that a driver gives all cards the same abilities. Nor do I know they don't.
For more on what I don't know, never mind we don't have time.

Re: SAW Hooks

by jazzboxmaker » Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:34 pm

Good luck with it Bill- But from Bob's reply it will be a non-issue very shortly :)

Re: SAW Hooks

by BillyK » Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:29 pm

Jazzbox:

Thanks for the info. I thought I had the latest drivers & firmware, but just in case I just downloaded from Lynx and will try an update next time I am at the studio. Hope that will do the trick.

Bill

Re: SAW Hooks

by jazzboxmaker » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:45 pm

Billy,
I'm sure others here will chime in but I believe the Asio driver has to be multi-client to pull this off. RME's drivers are and I can run 2 different apps with them.

Re: SAW Hooks

by BillyK » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:17 pm

I guess I am not following how Bud is using ASIO on both programs at the same time and this is why I thought they would not work together until Bob "hooks" them together. I am using a LynxTWO with the LS-ADAT option. I can only assign the sound card (using ASIO) to SS or SAC but not to both at the same time. Could someone please explain how to record on SS while using SAC to mix. IF I missed a thread explaining this procedure I apologize.

Re: SAW Hooks

by Bruce Callaway » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:15 pm

Billy K, I second everything that Bud said. I bought SAC to do live mixing with SAW recording in the background but when I used them together, I was very impressed and it dawned on me that that this could be a whole new way of working.

I shall have to see the impact of the SAW hooks on overdubbing but if that can be managed, I can get rid of my external mixing desk and use SAW/SAW everywhere in the same fashion. My rig is mobile now and I think this combination will give me a great benefit.

Re: SAW Hooks

by Bob L » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:20 pm

The record and play hooks appear to be stable at the moment.

I have a few more things I am trying to include in this update and am hoping to get everything finished this weekend.

Bob L

Re: SAW Hooks

by Bud Johnson » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:37 am

Billy K,
If you run SAC you can mix while SS records the dry source input simultaneously. Some run one set of drivers for SAC and a second set of drivers for SS. Personally that doesn't work as well on my setup. I simply run Asio for both.
This only works for recording, not for overdubs as there is now current way to have SAC play SS tracks.

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