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Re: tags

by Todd R » Tue Apr 15, 2025 5:45 am

ivanoff wrote:in the Wide view too......
oh yeah! I never use the W Mixer :-)

Re: tags

by ivanoff » Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:53 am

Todd R wrote:shift+lftclk also works to label channels in the Z Mixer folks :-)
in the Wide view too......

Re: tags

by Todd R » Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:48 am

shift+lftclk also works to label channels in the Z Mixer folks :-)

as far as manually labelling tracks/ channels: I would lean on copy>paste to keep syntax exact to eliminate/limit typos

personally, I always label my tracks/ channels

Re: tags

by Dave Labrecque » Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:25 am

Ideas:

1) Create a session template with all your most-commonly-used track/channel labels. Or a few templates for different session types.

2) Create a macro that transfers names to the MT or a mixer view from a list of WAV files in File Explorer or lines of text in a text document.

3) Just type in the freaking labels for each project. How tough can it be? :D

Re: tags

by Goran Nordberg » Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:35 am

Well...importing 40-60 wav files into MT, all track names has to be filled in manually in MT track label.
I have done it, not 60 but 20 wav files, one have to just make plenty of coffee and it is done :D he, he.
Anyway here are nice multitrack files if it is of interest:

https://www.telefunken-elektroakustik.c ... romthelab/

Re: tags

by mr_es335 » Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:22 am

jmh,

I did not employ such myself, but what of the "old days" and the employment of "scribble strips"?

I also would gather that you have never - or have limited knowledge of, working with the Control Track and the entering of Custom Cmds.

Yes indeed, for such tasks, these task can be rather laborious...but "c'est la vie"

Re: tags

by jmh » Tue Apr 08, 2025 10:52 pm

See post 9 > [Ctrl-Left-Clicking] in the Label Display zone

This lets you do it pretty quick.

One thing I noticed is there are widely different ways people use this software. And lots of different workflows. One man's shortcoming is another's advantage, so something like track-labeling is just the way it is.

For what you are doing (which I don't do often) I rename the audio files G1_rhythm, G2_ lead... and then library import them into the multitrack en-masse. They sort alphabetically then number-select groups (now in order) and apply textures - green for guitars...

That makes it easy to name the tracks - but I wouldn't want to use use the file names. Who cares? ...saw keeps track of that - and not many characters that fit into the display - but something like this would be meaningful: G_RL_C - which equals (to me) guitar_rhythm_left_chorus.


Re: tags

by andrew b » Tue Apr 08, 2025 7:33 pm

jmh wrote:It sounds like you are importing wav files. If so, the file names are displayed on the multitrack waveform display - not the track label. The track label is not associated with the file name (unless it is recorded on that track, in which case it is part of the basis for automatically generated filenames of newly recorded material).

It is the track label that propagates to the other views. That must be entered manually (at least initially - although it saves with certain templates).
and this can't be fixed (.I would like to. Writing 40 files is boring

Re: tags

by jmh » Tue Apr 08, 2025 3:10 pm

It sounds like you are importing wav files. If so, the file names are displayed on the multitrack waveform display - not the track label. The track label is not associated with the file name (unless it is recorded on that track, in which case it is part of the basis for automatically generated filenames of newly recorded material).

It is the track label that propagates to the other views. That must be entered manually (at least initially - although it saves with certain templates).

Re: tags

by andrew b » Tue Apr 08, 2025 10:23 am

Dave Labrecque wrote:Maybe it's cuz it's a click in the MT, but a shift-click in the mixer views?

I never add labels in mixer views, so this one caught me off guard initially.

ok.) here's what I encountered for practice, downloaded from here and they are not displayed, and if there are a lot of them. https://www.cambridge-mt.com/ms/mtk/
try it yourself. there are a lot of channels if they sent you ?

Re: tags

by Dave Labrecque » Tue Apr 08, 2025 9:08 am

UpTilDawn wrote:I'm confused! What can I say? :rolleyes:

It didn't work this morning, but now it's fine........

Thanks for the extra push to check again.

Guess it's not something I do often.
Maybe it's cuz it's a click in the MT, but a shift-click in the mixer views?

I never add labels in mixer views, so this one caught me off guard initially.

Re: tags

by jmh » Mon Apr 07, 2025 3:31 pm

Dave Labrecque wrote:I think by "Filenames" Dell means track/channel names.
In addition, when the track-label is populated with a name, it becomes part of filenames that are subsequently recorded. A handy trick when doing punch-ins is changing the track-names even by one characters. This will prevent you from being able to damage a previous recording, as the newly recorded material is in a now in a different file rather than appending the original if you do something like an accidental retake-all, or an undo while in record mode.

Re: tags

by mr_es335 » Mon Apr 07, 2025 12:49 pm

Good day,

Whenever I am facing "issues" with any of Bob's offerings, I always download the demo version of the application in question - to determine if the anomaly persists.

In the final analysis, I tend to discover that the anomaly is most often the result of ID-10-T issues.

Re: tags

by UpTilDawn » Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:41 am

I'm confused! What can I say? :rolleyes:

It didn't work this morning, but now it's fine........

Thanks for the extra push to check again.

Guess it's not something I do often.

Re: tags

by mr_es335 » Mon Apr 07, 2025 10:33 am

UpTilDawn,

Have a "peep"...

Labeling Tracks [MultiTrack]
  1. [Left-Clicking] in the Label Display zone displays a track label dialog box, allowing a name for the track to be entered. You must press the [Enter] key or click the OK button on the title bar for the name to be accepted.
  2. [Ctrl-Left-Clicking] in the Label Display zone allows you to enter labels for sequential tracks. Pressing the [Enter] key or clicking the OK button on the title bar after a label name has been entered will automatically prompt for a label name for the next track. To close or cancel the label dialog box, [Left-Click] either the close button or outside of the box, or press the [Esc] key.
  3. Track labels may be entered even while playback is active. If record meters are open, the engine must be stopped to enter labels due to the already opened and linked record files.


Label Display Zone [Full Mixer]
  1. [Shift-Left-Clicking] in the Label Display zone displays a track label dialog box, allowing a name for the channel to be entered. You must press the [Enter] key for the name to be accepted.
  2. [Ctrl-Left-Clicking] in the Label Display zone allows you to enter labels for sequential tracks. Pressing the [Enter] key after a label name has been entered will automatically prompt for a label name for the next track. To close or cancel the label dialog box, [Left-Click] either the close button or outside of the box, or press the [Esc] key.
  3. Channel labels may be entered even while playback is active. If record meters are open, the engine must be stopped to enter labels due to the already opened and linked record files.


MT=[Left-Click]
FM=[Shift-Left-Click]

Re: tags

by UpTilDawn » Mon Apr 07, 2025 8:23 am

Dave Labrecque wrote:Or in one of the other mixer views. Entering a name in either the MT or any mixer view will populate in all the others.
I guess I need to consult the manual on this one...

I've never been able to name a channel through a mixer view in SAW - In SAC, sure - but the only place I've ever been able to name a channel is from the MT.

Tried just now, too, and it's a no-go for me.

Re: tags

by Dave Labrecque » Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:49 am

mr_es335 wrote:* Filenames can be added in the any of the Mixer Views...as Dave noted...
I think by "Filenames" Dell means track/channel names.

Re: tags

by Dave Labrecque » Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:39 am

UpTilDawn wrote:The names don't automatically display in the mixer views unless you've entered names in the Track/Channel label area in the MT view.
Or in one of the other mixer views. Entering a name in either the MT or any mixer view will populate in all the others.

Re: tags

by mr_es335 » Sun Apr 06, 2025 5:21 am

Andrew,

Following is an image of the RadioAd_Country_Music.edl session mix...[...not too sure what you are referring to as "tags"?...]
* Track|Channel names can be added in the any of the Mixer Views...as Dave noted...

Image

Another example...

Image

What are the... "...others are not displayed..." ...referring to?

Re: tags

by andrew b » Sun Apr 06, 2025 3:29 am

[quote="Dave Labrecque"]I don't know what tags are, but you should be seeing the track label text in the MT and the F, W, and Z Mixer views. Works over here on SS64 ver. 1.4.[/QUyes. RadioAd_Country.edl displays by default but others don't (it's a matter of how the track is written? tags? OTE] and if there are 40-60 of them, do you have to write everything down manually?

yes. RadioAd_Country.edl is displayed by default, but others are not displayed (is it a question of how the track is written? Do I need to manually write these tracks?, and if there are 40-60 of them.

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