SAW Hooks

[soundtrack2life]

Bob, how long until SAC hooks into SAW? As for me that was only reason I wanted SAC . . . . Total Mix on steroids
Thanks,
Joe

[Iain Westland]

I think it will be about the last piece to be honest, the first priority is to the live useage, and when thats extremely stable and solid, then it will get the hooks.

i too am hear to get hooked

[Bob L]

I obviously must first stabilize the live engine... otherwise hooks to SAWStudio are meaningless anyway... those hooks cannot be properly designed until the engine revisions have stabilized.

You cannot build the 10th floor of the building until the foundation is solid.

Bob L

[Mountain Media]

I obviously must first stabilize the live engine... otherwise hooks to SAWStudio are meaningless anyway... those hooks cannot be properly designed until the engine revisions have stabilized.

You cannot build the 10th floor of the building until the foundation is solid.

Bob L

Unless you use 'Sky-hooks' - or in this case 'SAWStudio-hooks'

[soundtrack2life]

Unless you use 'Sky-hooks' - or in this case 'SAWStudio-hooks'

That was a good one

[Iain Westland]

You cannot build the 10th floor of the building until the foundation is solid.

Bob L

How are the foundations going sir?

[Bob L]

I'm working on the hooks now... it is an involved process to share common data buffers and variables between separate apps in XP... but it is coming along.

dll plugins run in the same address space... but two different apps are a different thing all together.

Bob L

[Iain Westland]

i can imagine!!! i cant work out how your gonna write a brand new audio interface to make saw n sac talk to each other without affecting the asio protocol that i will run sac on.

then again i cant work out how they found all those little people to live inside my tv set.

Iain

[AudioAstronomer]

i can imagine!!! i cant work out how your gonna write a brand new audio interface to make saw n sac talk to each other without affecting the asio protocol that i will run sac on.

then again i cant work out how they found all those little people to live inside my tv set.

Iain

That's not how it will likely work. Sharing data between two applications is very common. More complicated for near real-time processes, but still more common than you'd think

[Iain Westland]

your taking all the magic away Robert! here i am wondering about spells, wands and computations and you go n tell me its simple high end programming!!

[mako]

your taking all the magic away Robert! here i am wondering about spells, wands and computations and you go n tell me its simple high end programming!!

- on with the spells

mako

[Bob L]

As often as data is shared between processes... things get quite tricky when trying to do live streaming multi-channel sharing between two processes... its quite a different ballgame than sharing a name and address lookup in a common database.

But... things are moving along.

Bob L

[Bud Johnson]

But... things are moving along.

Bob L

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[bassthumper]

Bob, I cannot wait till the hooks get brought in. I have been working for the past several nights on a setup I am going to do using SAC. I originally wanted to use SAW to feed SAC my audio tracks for a show I am doing Tomorrow (Sat. May 24, 2008). The cool thing is the whole show is 1 Mic, 1 Guitar, and the ability to play Cd or audio trax. Unfortunately for me because of a date conflict Greg and I will be going in 2 different directions and I won't be using the RME's. I am resorting to running it all on My M-Audio Firewire Solo with my laptop. I was trying to do a Spdif in and out loop between SAW and SAC but the M-Audio Solo is a pain in the BUTT to configure!!!!! I can't get both programs to assign to 2 different sets of outs and ins, so I just decided I will get out the trusty old Cd player and bring it with me. I am bringing an analog board as a backup but plan to run SAC for about 4 hours (so far in all my test setups I have had no failure). Will let you know how it goes. I have already been using SAC with this equipment running my bass guitar through it and using the effects and eq's basically as a preamp and it works great. This will be my first run at SAC being the primary main and monitor consoles. I am also going to test out a new Crown amp in the process and see just how hard I can make SAC push it.

[Bob L]

Well... the recording hooks are in and I have been testing for the last three days in a live recording session at the curch here in Vegas.

The results have been awesome so far... today was the most impressive... my full church SAC template running on a lowly P4 3 ghz machine... single cpu... FOH and 8 monitor console mixes... full eq and comps and verb... a mixture of in-ear feeds and front and rear floor wedges... session loads at 48%.

Last week, we tried using SAW on the same machine running the MME drivers while SAC used the ASIO drivers... the machine cpu flatlined at 100%... could barely move the mouse around... not a very realistic scenario.... today... with the hooks... SAW bypasses the entire Windows soundcard driver and connects directly to internal shared virtual buffers from SAC... recorded 19 tracks... mixture of mono and stereo... assignable directly from the SAC FOH mixer... the SAC load was not altered at all while feeding these record buffers over to SAW... SAW added an overall 3% load to the whole system while it happily churned along writing 19 tracks to disk in the background... the task manager showed a total of only 50% cpu.... SAW was almost completely transparent to the system.

The recordings came out glitch free... even though I was jumping all over the place with F-Keys and program switches between the two apps... by the way... the H/S switch is now also active on the SAW Record Remote and allows the remote to float ontop of SAC while it conveniently hides and shows SAW with one click of the switch.

After 5 hours of solid recording today... 16 songs laid down... SAC showed zero slipped buffers... yeeeessssss!!!

This looks extremely encouraging... now I am working on the return hooks to allow SAW to playback thru the SAC console.

Bob L

[UpTilDawn]

Well... the recording hooks are in and I have been testing for the last three days in a live recording session at the curch here in Vegas.

The results have been awesome so far...

Fantastic news Bob!!!!!!

[Mountain Media]

WOW!! Great news, Bob!

If these kinda load numbers continue, can you hook in a gaming interface, on the same machine, so we can play MahJongg while we do those LONG symphony sessions??

Congratulations!

[Himhui]

playing MahJongg??

[Iain Westland]

hats off sir!!! if it can be done then you the man

[AudioAstronomer]

YYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.

I could really use this for next saturday 30 channels to be recorded, 8 performers and it'd be much nicer to do it via sac/saw than just through saw... otherwise I have to dupe the performer's iems to have room for the main