Virtual Soundcheck and Record Show
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Virtual Soundcheck and Record Show
Hello again, I'm opening a second thread to see a solution to this question. I would like to make recordings of the shows and also do virtual sound checks.
The best option would probably be to use SAW for this, but spending $500 just to record and play back seems excessive to me. Isn't there a cutdown version of SAW to do this?
If this version does not exist, it would be nice if in the future we could have a version of SAW Live just for recording and playing tracks live.
Can someone help me with this?
The best option would probably be to use SAW for this, but spending $500 just to record and play back seems excessive to me. Isn't there a cutdown version of SAW to do this?
If this version does not exist, it would be nice if in the future we could have a version of SAW Live just for recording and playing tracks live.
Can someone help me with this?
Re: Virtual Soundcheck and Record Show
Ruben,
I gather you are employing SAC64? Correct?
Being new to the family here, there was a time when SAW sold for over $2000.00!! So, "Don't worry!"..."Be Happy!" and buy SAW.
If you own SAC32, yoou could employ SAW32 Basic at $100.00.
You might also keep in mind that SAW can be be, and has been, deployed in a live environment as well.
Check these out...[Click_Me]!
Regardless, the combo of SAC and SAW is simply unbeatable!!!
- Wait a minute, SAC and SAW, musically speaking, ARE "beat"..."able"! Hey...it is early!!
Hope this helps?
I gather you are employing SAC64? Correct?
Being new to the family here, there was a time when SAW sold for over $2000.00!! So, "Don't worry!"..."Be Happy!" and buy SAW.
If you own SAC32, yoou could employ SAW32 Basic at $100.00.
You might also keep in mind that SAW can be be, and has been, deployed in a live environment as well.
Check these out...[Click_Me]!
Regardless, the combo of SAC and SAW is simply unbeatable!!!
- Wait a minute, SAC and SAW, musically speaking, ARE "beat"..."able"! Hey...it is early!!
Hope this helps?
Re: Virtual Soundcheck and Record Show
[quote="mr_es335"][TAMA
My Setup SAC:
interface - digigramLX646
preamps - Yamaha Ad8hr
Outs - Yamaha DME80-es
protocol audio - Ethersound
I control gain remote
;
interface - digigramLX646
preamps - Yamaha Ad8hr
Outs - Yamaha DME80-es
protocol audio - Ethersound
I control gain remote
Re: Virtual Soundcheck and Record Show
[quote="mr_es335"][TAMA
My Setup SAC:
interface - digigramLX646
preamps - Yamaha Ad8hr
Outs - Yamaha DME80-es
protocol audio - Ethersound
I control gain remote
;
interface - digigramLX646
preamps - Yamaha Ad8hr
Outs - Yamaha DME80-es
protocol audio - Ethersound
I control gain remote
Re: Virtual Soundcheck and Record Show
Yes, I use SAC64.mr_es335 wrote:Ruben,
I gather you are employing SAC64? Correct?
Being new to the family here, there was a time when SAW sold for over $2000.00!! So, "Don't worry!"..."Be Happy!" and buy SAW.
If you own SAC32, yoou could employ SAW32 Basic at $100.00.
You might also keep in mind that SAW can be be, and has been, deployed in a live environment as well.
Check these out...[Click_Me]!
Regardless, the combo of SAC and SAW is simply unbeatable!!!
- Wait a minute, SAC and SAW, musically speaking, ARE "beat"..."able"! Hey...it is early!!
Hope this helps?
No, I'm not going to buy SAW64 for $500 just for this purpose.
There is Waves Track Live for free, and Harrison Live Trax for $14.99. Both are softwares created for this purpose and their price is low.
I think that having the SAW code done, it would not cost anything to remove everything and leave only the multitrack recording and playback with SAC/Link to leave a minimalist version for this purpose.
I'm sure SAC users would buy it at a reasonable price of $50 or $60.
My Setup SAC:
interface - digigramLX646
preamps - Yamaha Ad8hr
Outs - Yamaha DME80-es
protocol audio - Ethersound
I control gain remote
;
interface - digigramLX646
preamps - Yamaha Ad8hr
Outs - Yamaha DME80-es
protocol audio - Ethersound
I control gain remote
Re: Virtual Soundcheck and Record Show
Hi, I haven't tried it yet. Next week when my vacation is over I'll start testing the system.Pedro V wrote:How did it go with pspaudioware?
My Setup SAC:
interface - digigramLX646
preamps - Yamaha Ad8hr
Outs - Yamaha DME80-es
protocol audio - Ethersound
I control gain remote
;
interface - digigramLX646
preamps - Yamaha Ad8hr
Outs - Yamaha DME80-es
protocol audio - Ethersound
I control gain remote
Re: Virtual Soundcheck and Record Show
Regarding Waves Track Live for free, and Harrison Live.
They are already paid for when they sell you the racket and the smoke. On top of that they charge you $14.99.
.99 see if they are serious. The marketing department, the investors.
Toy parts for a market of minds that remain in the past. You see that and you yawn or sigh with tiredness. They are technological clich
They are already paid for when they sell you the racket and the smoke. On top of that they charge you $14.99.
.99 see if they are serious. The marketing department, the investors.
Toy parts for a market of minds that remain in the past. You see that and you yawn or sigh with tiredness. They are technological clich
Re: Virtual Soundcheck and Record Show
Ruben,
You stated, "There is Waves Track Live for free, and Harrison Live Trax for $14.99. Both are softwares created for this purpose and their price is low."
* Please do NOT compare "apples with oranges"...or in this present case, "apples with corn".
You stated, "I think that having the SAW code done, it would not cost anything to remove everything and leave only the multitrack recording and playback with SAC/Link to leave a minimalist version for this purpose."
* I cannot speak for others, but I am very happy with the current iteration of SAW. I did own SAW Basic for a time, and simply outgrew that version.
You stated, "I'm sure SAC users would buy it at a reasonable price of $50 or $60."
* Well, I for one, would not!" Speculation, my man! Speculation!
You stated, "There is Waves Track Live for free, and Harrison Live Trax for $14.99. Both are softwares created for this purpose and their price is low."
* Please do NOT compare "apples with oranges"...or in this present case, "apples with corn".
You stated, "I think that having the SAW code done, it would not cost anything to remove everything and leave only the multitrack recording and playback with SAC/Link to leave a minimalist version for this purpose."
* I cannot speak for others, but I am very happy with the current iteration of SAW. I did own SAW Basic for a time, and simply outgrew that version.
You stated, "I'm sure SAC users would buy it at a reasonable price of $50 or $60."
* Well, I for one, would not!" Speculation, my man! Speculation!
Re: Virtual Soundcheck and Record Show
I understand that you are very happy with SAW, but I don't need SAW at all. My work is limited to mixing live concerts. So all I need is a multitrack system that Connect to SAC to record tracks and perform virtual sound checks, nothing more.mr_es335 wrote:Ruben,
You stated, "There is Waves Track Live for free, and Harrison Live Trax for $14.99. Both are softwares created for this purpose and their price is low."
* Please do NOT compare "apples with oranges"...or in this present case, "apples with corn".
You stated, "I think that having the SAW code done, it would not cost anything to remove everything and leave only the multitrack recording and playback with SAC/Link to leave a minimalist version for this purpose."
* I cannot speak for others, but I am very happy with the current iteration of SAW. I did own SAW Basic for a time, and simply outgrew that version.
You stated, "I'm sure SAC users would buy it at a reasonable price of $50 or $60."
* Well, I for one, would not!" Speculation, my man! Speculation!
I'm sure I'm not the only one who needs this simple thing because if other mixing systems already use it like this, it should be the same with SAC.
I'm not mixing anything up, you are the one who is. I didn't compare SAW with the systems I mentioned, in fact, I'm not looking for something like SAW. I'm looking for something that does what Waves Tacks Live does but with SAC. As I said, I don't need SAW at all in my work.
My Setup SAC:
interface - digigramLX646
preamps - Yamaha Ad8hr
Outs - Yamaha DME80-es
protocol audio - Ethersound
I control gain remote
;
interface - digigramLX646
preamps - Yamaha Ad8hr
Outs - Yamaha DME80-es
protocol audio - Ethersound
I control gain remote
Re: Virtual Soundcheck and Record Show
Then get Waves! If Waves "does what it does", then get!
For your interest: "Feature requests should not be discussed in the public forums and instead should be sent in private emails to any of the support email addresses... support@SawStudio.com... tech@SawStudio.com... info@SoftwareAudioConsole.com... tech@SoftwareAudioConsole.com. I will consider all suggestions that are presented in a respectful way. There are no guarantees that the features will end up in the code, or how soon they may appear."
For your interest: "Feature requests should not be discussed in the public forums and instead should be sent in private emails to any of the support email addresses... support@SawStudio.com... tech@SawStudio.com... info@SoftwareAudioConsole.com... tech@SoftwareAudioConsole.com. I will consider all suggestions that are presented in a respectful way. There are no guarantees that the features will end up in the code, or how soon they may appear."
Re: Virtual Soundcheck and Record Show
I think you're misunderstanding me, I don't want to get Waves.mr_es335 wrote:Then get Waves! If Waves "does what it does", then get!
For your interest: "Feature requests should not be discussed in the public forums and instead should be sent in private emails to any of the support email addresses... support@SawStudio.com... tech@SawStudio.com... info@SoftwareAudioConsole.com... tech@SoftwareAudioConsole.com. I will consider all suggestions that are presented in a respectful way. There are no guarantees that the features will end up in the code, or how soon they may appear."
I use Waves with digital mixing desks on a daily basis. But with SAC what I've got is a powerful, personal mixing system,It takes up little space, etc. But in my first few months I'm running into some problems and I'm respectfully posting this on the forum to see if anyone has a solution.
I already sent Bob an email with these suggestions, but I would like to know if there are users with more experience That they had these problems and solved them in another way without SAW.
And I would also like to know if you have an opinion similar to mine on this matter. I don't think that speaking about it publicly is a bad thing. On the contrary, I think it is healthy to get feedback from users about the systems you use etc...
My Setup SAC:
interface - digigramLX646
preamps - Yamaha Ad8hr
Outs - Yamaha DME80-es
protocol audio - Ethersound
I control gain remote
;
interface - digigramLX646
preamps - Yamaha Ad8hr
Outs - Yamaha DME80-es
protocol audio - Ethersound
I control gain remote
Re: Virtual Soundcheck and Record Show
Hello,
Can you not employ "internal routing" software to do the job you are asking to do?
Here are a few:
Jack
VoiceMeeter
SynchronousAudioRouter
ASIOLink
VE Pro
VB-Audio Virtual Cable
Dante Virtual Soundcard
Can you not employ "internal routing" software to do the job you are asking to do?
Here are a few:
Jack
VoiceMeeter
SynchronousAudioRouter
ASIOLink
VE Pro
VB-Audio Virtual Cable
Dante Virtual Soundcard
Re: Virtual Soundcheck and Record Show
Hi, I haven't tried it yet. I'll try these options to see if they work for me. Thanks.mr_es335 wrote:Hello,
Can you not employ "internal routing" software to do the job you are asking to do?
Here are a few:
Jack
VoiceMeeter
SynchronousAudioRouter
ASIOLink
VE Pro
VB-Audio Virtual Cable
Dante Virtual Soundcard
My Setup SAC:
interface - digigramLX646
preamps - Yamaha Ad8hr
Outs - Yamaha DME80-es
protocol audio - Ethersound
I control gain remote
;
interface - digigramLX646
preamps - Yamaha Ad8hr
Outs - Yamaha DME80-es
protocol audio - Ethersound
I control gain remote
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Re: Virtual Soundcheck and Record Show
You're probably looking for something like this:
https://www.voxengo.com/product/recorder/
I haven't used it. But Voxengo makes legit stuff.
It is the bare minimum. You won't be able to adjust between tracks post-recording. It's nowhere near as full featured as SAW - actually, even comparing them isn't fair to it. You would never want attempt to use it to capture a multi-track performance for later editing/mixing. It's not a DAW. It can't even play back what it records. But - to soundcheck your mix, it looks like it would work - and the price is right.
You'd patch it into your output track as a VST, indicate a wav output file name and location, manually start it - and then do your sound check. At the end, you'd manually stop it, and use a wav recorder pointed at your newly minted wav file to listen to the result.
I can imagine that there might be some difficulties with competition for converter resources between SAC and your wav player. So, you might have to close SAC to listen to it. And, the features and compatibility tab indicates that it was made for Windows XP and has some potential incompatibilities with modern OSs - and, in particular, 64 bit. So, you may have to do the jBridge dance to get it to work. Long term, you'd be much better off with SAW (which uses the same buffers as SAC): at some point you're probably going to want to capture what you're doing for later post-production. But... the learning curve is next to zero, again - it's free-ish, and it's just barely sophisticated enough to perform a sound check if you also have a wav player.
https://www.voxengo.com/product/recorder/
I haven't used it. But Voxengo makes legit stuff.
It is the bare minimum. You won't be able to adjust between tracks post-recording. It's nowhere near as full featured as SAW - actually, even comparing them isn't fair to it. You would never want attempt to use it to capture a multi-track performance for later editing/mixing. It's not a DAW. It can't even play back what it records. But - to soundcheck your mix, it looks like it would work - and the price is right.
You'd patch it into your output track as a VST, indicate a wav output file name and location, manually start it - and then do your sound check. At the end, you'd manually stop it, and use a wav recorder pointed at your newly minted wav file to listen to the result.
I can imagine that there might be some difficulties with competition for converter resources between SAC and your wav player. So, you might have to close SAC to listen to it. And, the features and compatibility tab indicates that it was made for Windows XP and has some potential incompatibilities with modern OSs - and, in particular, 64 bit. So, you may have to do the jBridge dance to get it to work. Long term, you'd be much better off with SAW (which uses the same buffers as SAC): at some point you're probably going to want to capture what you're doing for later post-production. But... the learning curve is next to zero, again - it's free-ish, and it's just barely sophisticated enough to perform a sound check if you also have a wav player.
Re: Virtual Soundcheck and Record Show
Hi, thanks for your contribution. I will look for more information on this, although at first glance it does not seem to be the solution I am looking for.John Ludlow wrote:You're probably looking for something like this:
https://www.voxengo.com/product/recorder/
I haven't used it. But Voxengo makes legit stuff.
It is the bare minimum. You won't be able to adjust between tracks post-recording. It's nowhere near as full featured as SAW - actually, even comparing them isn't fair to it. You would never want attempt to use it to capture a multi-track performance for later editing/mixing. It's not a DAW. It can't even play back what it records. But - to soundcheck your mix, it looks like it would work - and the price is right.
You'd patch it into your output track as a VST, indicate a wav output file name and location, manually start it - and then do your sound check. At the end, you'd manually stop it, and use a wav recorder pointed at your newly minted wav file to listen to the result.
I can imagine that there might be some difficulties with competition for converter resources between SAC and your wav player. So, you might have to close SAC to listen to it. And, the features and compatibility tab indicates that it was made for Windows XP and has some potential incompatibilities with modern OSs - and, in particular, 64 bit. So, you may have to do the jBridge dance to get it to work. Long term, you'd be much better off with SAW (which uses the same buffers as SAC): at some point you're probably going to want to capture what you're doing for later post-production. But... the learning curve is next to zero, again - it's free-ish, and it's just barely sophisticated enough to perform a sound check if you also have a wav player.
My Setup SAC:
interface - digigramLX646
preamps - Yamaha Ad8hr
Outs - Yamaha DME80-es
protocol audio - Ethersound
I control gain remote
;
interface - digigramLX646
preamps - Yamaha Ad8hr
Outs - Yamaha DME80-es
protocol audio - Ethersound
I control gain remote